Metafilter Podcast, Episode 111: "It's Too Late To Play The Accordion" (2015-12-01)

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jessamyn:
I mean, some of these kids are equine studies majors! They don't actually give a *shit* about HTML.
cortex:
You'd think they in particular would be interested in Horse Text Markup.
jessamyn:
(cracks up)
Jingle:
(theme song)'
cortex:
Well perhaps we should start this thing.
jessamyn:
*Fantastic!*
cortex:
We're recording. This is episode 111 of the Metafilter, Best of the Web, monthly podcast. I am cortex.
jessamyn:
I am Jessamyn.
cortex:
And with us is our special guest, *no one!* We're just going to do it, the two of us! And oh my god we'll see how this goes!
jessamyn:
We haven't had enough, you know, *quality time* together, just you and me.
cortex:
Exactly! I like having people on, and honestly, the only reason we don't have someone on this month is because holiday weekend -
cortex:
And honestly the only reason we don't have someone on this month is because - holiday weekend,'crap holy shit it's December' - logistically I didn't want to try and cram someone in at short notice, so. But it's also...I'm kinda excited about it! We really, like - when we have someone on, we're sorta both shepherding them through the podcasting process, I feel like there's a certain amount of -
jessamyn:
Which I've enjoyed -
cortex:
Yeah!
jessamyn:
I've also enjoyed.
cortex:
Yeah no, it's fun! But it's a challenge. It makes me very conscious of the podcasting format, like as we're doing it, y'know. I'm constantly sorta thinking, 'oh, what do we need to accommodate this person, should we try and help them get in on this conversation, etc, y'know.
And now I feel like we can spend an hour and a half totally bullshitting here without giving it a second thought - which our listeners are really excited about, I'm sure.
jessamyn:
Very excited! (cortex laughs) Although it can't last forever, because I do have another job to go to at some point -
cortex:
Yes, yes
jessamyn:
- but not for a while, so.
cortex:
We've got a little time. I feel like trying to do it short last time worked out OK...
jessamyn:
I enjoyed it!
cortex:
Eyebrows [McGee] brought the energy and helped make that happen, that was good.
jessamyn:
Well she's got that "let me tell you this crazy story about this crazy thing"
thing already built in.
cortex:
Yeah.
jessamyn:
So she was perfect, yeah.
cortex:
So that was a lot of fun. But yeah, apparently we can do it in less than two hours if we make an effort, so.
jessamyn:
Also, I am following her Instagram, which is all tiny houses of Peoria, and--
cortex:
(chuckles)
jessamyn:
--I am, oh, my, god! loving it! Like, I don't care about Instagram. Whatever! Instagram. I look at pictures on it sometimes. I put a picture on it pretty much every day, and I'm like, oh, other people like my pictures, I like people's picture pictures. But I find that I look forward to the small houses of Peoria, because they're
so little and weird and I *love* every single one of them.
cortex:
(chuckles)
jessamyn:
You know, I don't feel that way about other people's cats, I don't feel that way about other people's babies. But the little houses of Peoria? Yes.
cortex:
It's a thing. It's something... if it hits you just right, that's what the Internet is for.
jessamyn:
Yeah! I think so. And I can never remember the web address. Somebody asked me, what's the web address of...? And I don't--
cortex:
(chuckles)
jessamyn:
I'll have to look it up. But it is great, so yes.
cortex:
Yes. That is rad.
jessamyn:
Yeah. So, let's talk about the number 111!
cortex:
Let's, let's! Because, I mean, that's a *conspicuous* number right there.
jessamyn:
I grew up right off of Highway 111, in Boxborough, Massachusetts, when I was a kid, so that is my first experience with it. And, so, some basic things: yeah, it's a palindrome. It's not prime; it's actually 3 times 37, and what that means is that all the triplets,
222, 777, 999...
cortex:
Oh, they're multiples of 37.
jessamyn:
Are in the form 3n x 37.
cortex:
Yeah.
jessamyn:
Which is useful to know, because then you automatically know all those numbers are divisible by 37. Don't know if other people care. I think it's cool!
But the thing that I like the best about 111 is that it's sometimes called a Nelson--maybe this is not true.
cortex:
(laughs) Ha-ha! Um, sorry.
jessamyn:
(laughs)
cortex:
That was not a very good Nelson laugh. I mean, it's clearly two 'ha's, but, yeah.
jessamyn:
It was a terri--(higher pitched, hornlike) ha-ha! Right, you said (flat speaking voice) 'ha-ha'.
cortex:
Yeah, I know. It's more of a tone poem.
jessamyn:
I thought maybe you were laughing because you knew where this was going.
cortex:
(chuckles) No, I just--
jessamyn:
But it's Admiral Nelson, who theoretically only had one arm, one eye, and one leg at the end of his life.
cortex:
(chuckles)
jessamyn:
But that's not true. I mean, and I don't even know how you could think that! He had a leg! Like, how do you make that mistake? And so people are like, eh, he's one eye, one arm, one ambition, or one eye, one arm, and one asshole. I don't know?
cortex:
Yeah, I don't know.
jessamyn:
So if anybody has heard that Nelson, I would be interested to know that.
cortex:
This sounds like an AskMe that should happen.
jessamyn:
Yeah. Yeah.
cortex:
I've gotten--you know, we've talked about, before people have talked about how you have sort of an internal Ask Metafilter.
jessamyn:
Yeah.
cortex:
There was just a MetaTalk post about, basically saying, 'I didn't eat it, pre-emptively.'
jessamyn:
Oh, right, the Thanksgiving one. Yeah!
cortex:
But that's something that comes up frequently, where people sort of talk about, they've been using Ask Metafilter for a long time, and sometimes I have a question, and sometimes I just ask myself
the question in my head.
jessamyn:
And you say, "What would Ask Metafilter say about this?"
cortex:
Yeah, and I go through it and I figure out what my answer is without actually having to ask Metafilter. And that's *really* my relationship with Ask as well. At this point, I do a lot of, "Can I phrase this question in a way that I'm not going to feel dumb when someone says, 'Have you looked for X? Have you Googled Y?'" And most of the time I don't.
jessamyn:
But sometimes I really do want them to just do my homework for me!
cortex:
Oh, sure.
jessamyn:
I want someone else to look up the Nelson, because I don't feel like it! I look things up for a job!
cortex:
Yeah, yeah.
jessamyn:
[??] that's work.
cortex:
Well, and that's the thing. I feel I should probably try and ask slightly more, "I'm lazy, but someone out there knows how to do this," questions, instead of "Help me solve this."
jessamyn:
Well, *I* love them! You could just softball it to me!
cortex:
Yeah, I'll just, we'll just--
jessamyn:
I'm probably going to answer your question anyhow.
cortex:
Okay, we'll take turns from now on. Every other week, one of us will ask a softball question and just happen to mention to the other person, "Oh, by the way, have you seen Ask Metafilter?" and we'll just--
jessamyn:
Bam!
cortex:
Bam.
jessamyn:
I actually had a question that I thought you would be good at answering in my mind the other day.
Pssh. Forget it.
cortex:
If it comes to you, bring it up.
jessamyn:
No idea! It was something to do with cats or medicine or... houses with cats or medicine, I don't remember.
cortex:
Okay. Yeah. That might be a thing I would know about, depending on the cat and the medicine and the house.
jessamyn:
It might. It might.
cortex:
111's a palindrome. It's one of those lazy palindromes. I mean, I like it, and I like any palindrome.
jessamyn:
It's like rhyming 'commercial' with 'commercial'.
cortex:
Yeah, it's like... this is just an identity function. If you set a rock on the ground and said, "Look at that rock, it's a palindrome!"
jessamyn:
(laughs)
cortex:
You know, eh, it counts, but it's also kind of eh.
jessamyn:
You know, that might be sort of interesting, thinking of palindromic emojis where the center emoji has vertical symmetry.
cortex:
Ohhh.
jessamyn:
And then you have the same emoji on the other side.
cortex:
Yeah.
jessamyn:
Because I've been teaching my students about how you can use emoji in URLs, but on the back end, they just get converted into crappy ASCII.
cortex:
Yeah.
jessamyn:
But it would be kind of cool to have a palindromic emoji URL. Because, like, whatever. Palindromic URLs are a dime a dozen.
But palindromic emoji URLs? That would be kinda cool!
cortex:
Well, what if at some point they just introduce that as part of the emoji standard where you can... because now, they've started supporting the whole varied skin tone stuff on emojis.
jessamyn:
Awkwardly, only on iPhones. I was telling my students about that in class.
cortex:
Oh, really?
jessamyn:
And they were like, 'No. Mine doesn't do it.'
cortex:
(laughs)
jessamyn:
And I'm like, 'What, your phone is racist?' And they were like, euhhh! So yeah, apparently it's only Apple right now.
cortex:
Interesting.
jessamyn:
Well, I don't know if it's only Apple, but it's definitely not my students' phones, and it *is* my phone.
cortex:
I feel like transformational operations that you can add to emoji in general will become a thing eventually. You'll be able to do things like rotate it or flip it or scale it or whatnot, and then people will start doing these much more complicated emoji constructions.
jessamyn:
Well, like, you could do that--
cortex:
And then the palindrome thing would be super easy, because then.
jessamyn:
You can do that with Snapchat. Snapchat lets you take the emojis and rotate and flip and stretch them.
cortex:
Oh, yeah?
jessamyn:
Yeah, you should be on the Snapchat.
jessamyn:
Yeah you should be on the snap chat
cortex:
i should, there, i, i'm, i've, i'm, i'm growing old
jessamyn:
mine's the most boring one
cortex:
i got to get up on this stuff.
jessamyn:
you don't have to
cortex:
I gotta to just dive in
jessamyn:
you don't have to. But I'm just saying, if you want to flip an emoji
cortex:
yeah
jessamyn:
this is the place
cortex:
Yeah, the the the opportunity is there if someone wants to set that up for me. All right, that's good to know.
jessamyn:
Hey I just noticed a funny little bug! I'm looking at MeFi Jobs and I'm using my desktop computer (which I rarely use anymore), and it stretches the map, so I see basically two maps? But the jobs are only in one of them.
cortex:
(laughs) Yeah, I, I, I'm not sure exactly how that zooming's 'sposed to work, it's probably good 'cause otherwise you'd just end up with probably way too many things being rendered and it would just bog down
cortex:
It's probably good, cause otherwise you'd end up with too many things being rendered and would bog down, but it is weird. Why are there multiple earths? Ooh, actually, (laughs) if you want to play a fun trick, zoom way out and then slowly drag the map to the left or the right and the jobs will start skipping from one America to another.
jessamyn:
(gasps) Oh my god!
cortex:
This is the best play-along-at-home podcast game we've ever come up with.
jessamyn:
Oh my god, I can actually get it so half the United States jobs are in one United States and the other half are in the other United States.
cortex:
Yeah, this is some
jessamyn:
How did you know about this?
cortex:
I just started doing it while we were talking about it! (laughs)
jessamyn:
{laughs) That's awesome!
cortex:
It's a new discovery.
jessamyn:
That's pretty cool.
cortex:
I'm very distractable.
jessamyn:
So, speaking of jobs, the jobs are really - oh! So, this podcast is basically all of November, right? We got it together. It is the first of December, GO US!
cortex:
Yeah, I know, right? It's the first of December, the last one was the second of November...
jessamyn:
Wow!
cortex:
Close enough, so yeah.
jessamyn:
Look how high-functioning we are!
cortex:
We're amazing people.
jessamyn:
Nice! Nice! Oh! So I didn't scroll down long enough.
jessamyn:
There's actually an accordionist job, although that's probably...
cortex:
That's too late, yeah.
jessamyn:
Shit! D'you know who plays the accordion in *Boston*?
cortex:
Jim?
jessamyn:
Yes.
cortex:
I did not j...I don't know if I didn't know, or if I just forgot that Jim...
jessamyn:
Shit! And this...
cortex:
...played the accordion...
jessamyn:
...*would have actually*...
cortex:
...but Jim strikes me as someone who should have...
jessamyn:
...given him some *lunch*!
cortex:
(chuckles)
jessamyn:
He *likes* to work for lunch.
cortex:
It's a, it's a good thing to work for.
jessamyn:
Huh! Well, I'm sorry we missed that. I hope PXE2000 found a good accordionist.
cortex:
That's...I always hope that someone finds a good accordionist. There's a couple still...
cortex:
There's a couple still very much in the running jobs. One that's actually coming up just this Friday, "Looking for a steady-handed videographer." PXE2000 wants someone to shoot a thing on Friday. Presumably Friday the fifth...
jessamyn:
That's that same PXE2000!
cortex:
What, what?
jessamyn:
It's the same person.
cortex:
What..Oh, is it? I didn't... (laughs)
jessamyn:
(laughs) *I swear to god, Josh*! You don't...
cortex:
...as the accordionist. It's like, well I didn't know what you ???
jessamyn:
...even listen to the words I say!
cortex:
...the same as what? I just...the accordionist, of course, I guess.
jessamyn:
*I said it out loud*!
cortex:
It was what, the accordionist?
jessamyn:
I said it out loud!
cortex:
I was caught up in the idea of Jim playing accordion.
jessamyn:
In the what?
cortex:
I was like imagining Jim with an accordion and trying to think, "Yeah, I think, I could imagine what it would look like if he was playing accordion."
Uh, yes, so, they're hiring like crazy, apparently, pxe2000, is what they're doing.
jessamyn:
Yup.
cortex:
But if you're a steady-handed videographer in the vicinity of Tufts University and you want to do something on Friday, BOOM!
jessamyn:
And if you've ever wanted to work in Minneapolis, advicepig, they are hiring someone at the Minnesota Population Center
jessamyn:
They're hiring someone at the Minnesota Population Center, which actually is probably a pretty awesome job.
cortex:
Yeah!
jessamyn:
New things in Big Data, huge fan of open source, the pay is good, I should move to Minneapolis.
cortex:
(laughs)
jessamyn:
I love it there! It's great there! There's a ton of interesting Mefites, everything else... I'm trying to think, have I met advicepig? No!
cortex:
Well, there you go. You should move to Minnesota, and meet advicepig, and take a job.
jessamyn:
And I should.
"Gender: has taters" (laughs)
cortex:
That narrows it down. Thank you.
cortex:
I referred to… I guess latkes was "he" rather than "she"…
jessamyn:
I saw you do that.
cortex:
and then some… their gender listing in the profile was something, (spelling) "C U"… I can't remember it now offhand, but yes, I felt not so bad about it, but still, I feel… I always feel silly when I get someone's gender backwards on the podcast.
jessamyn:
Well because we do try, and…
cortex:
Yeah!
jessamyn:
the argument is we could try harder, but we are trying at least a little.
cortex:
(laughs)
But yes, so Jobs. There's a couple other things in there too, but basically jobs. Go get some jobs, people. But let's talk about Projects.
jessamyn:
Yeah! I was trying to see--I think I didn't, like, vote for anything this month. This was kind of a low-interactive month for me, because--shoulder's better, not sick, and so all I've been doing is catching up on all the stuff I haven't been doing for the last two months--
cortex:
[laughs]
jessamyn:
...which has been great! You know, like all those little social media, kind of, uhhhhh--you know, traplines that you set
and then forgot to go check.
cortex:
Yeah.
jessamyn:
Like, they're all filled with little comments and people saying howdy! But I've been doing that and not doing... this is one of the few months I'm like, "Yeah, I haven't been as up on Metafilter." I mean, I've been interactive, but I haven't been--
cortex:
You haven't been all up in there so much.
jessamyn:
Haven't been voting. And I noticed, I haven't used Fanfare Talk at all! Like, I used to pride myself on having at least one thing in everything with a number--
cortex:
But you missed the cleansweep this month.
jessamyn:
Well, no, I mean, I'm not--you guys added a new thing,
FanFare Talk, to the profile page--
cortex:
Oh! Yeah!
jessamyn:
I mean, it's awhile ago, but--
cortex:
Yeah. Last month or two, I think, we got that up--
jessamyn:
I have zeroes.
cortex:
Well, you'll have to--
jessamyn:
But I don't have anything to say!
cortex:
You'll have to get on there.
jessamyn:
Shit.
cortex:
You have to--yeah. We'll come up with something.
jessamyn:
Okay.
cortex:
It'll be related to one of the [???] AskMes one of us posted up, that the other one can answer. It'll be *about* FanFare Talk, and that'll just tie it all together. Bunch of good stuff on Projects! I feel like we say that every month, but that's one of the things I like about Projects is, every month, there's a bunch of good stuff!